{"id":125978,"date":"2024-06-03t12:00:07","date_gmt":"2024-06-03t16:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"\/\/www.g005e.com\/?p=125978"},"modified":"2024-08-29t23:53:08","modified_gmt":"2024-08-30t03:53:08","slug":"hiring-experience-vs-training-inexperience","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/06\/03\/hiring-experience-vs-training-inexperience\/","title":{"rendered":"hiring experience vs. training inexperience"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-125981\" src=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250.jpeg\" alt=\"young woman in job interview\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250.jpeg 1600w, \/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250-424x283.jpeg 424w, \/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250-849x566.jpeg 849w, \/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250-768x512.jpeg 768w, \/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w, \/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250-300x200.jpeg 300w, \/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250-600x400.jpeg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>invest your mentoring time where it matters most.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>by ed mendlowitz<\/i><br \/>\n<a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/shop\/101qa\/\"><i>202 questions and answers: managing an accounting practice<\/i><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>question: <\/strong>we were looking for an additional experienced person since september and hired someone with five years experience in mid-november, but she said she couldn\u2019t start until january. she said she had work she had to finish up.<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b>more: <\/b><a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/05\/22\/eleven-ways-new-staffers-can-help-bring-in-business\/\">eleven ways new staffers can help bring in business<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/05\/13\/should-you-merge-heres-how-to-chart-your-path\/\">should you merge? here\u2019s how to chart your path<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/04\/15\/hold-staff-accountable-if-you-want-them-to-listen-to-you\/\">hold staff accountable if you want them to listen to you<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/03\/25\/how-to-raise-your-rates\/\">how to raise your rates<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/02\/19\/higher-fees-to-start-ten-ways-to-make-your-tax-season-better\/\">higher fees to start: ten ways to make your tax season better<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/01\/29\/three-ways-to-start-an-accounting-practice\/\">three ways to start an accounting practice<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/01\/08\/free-consultation-not-always\/\">free consultation? not always<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2023\/11\/27\/referral-fee-forget-it\/\">referral fee? forget it<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2023\/11\/06\/how-much-is-your-tax-practice-worth\/\">how much is your tax practice worth?<\/a> | <a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/2023\/10\/16\/merge-in-lower-priced-work-without-losing-out\/\">merge in lower-priced work without losing out<\/a><br \/>\n<strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-49700 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/cpatwpe.s3.amazonaws.com\/cpatrendlines\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/08\/yellow_key_clip_art-e1375897299811-36p-hi-1-e1603911598474.jpg\" alt=\"goprocpa.com\" width=\"39\" height=\"16\" \/><span style=\"color: #b79c00;\">exclusively for pro members. <\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #b79c00;\"><a style=\"color: #b79c00;\" href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-login.php?redirect_to=\/\/www.g005e.com\/2024\/06\/03\/hiring-experience-vs-training-inexperience\/\">log in here<\/a> or <a class=\"external\" style=\"color: #b79c00;\" href=\"http:\/\/goprocpa.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2022世界杯足球排名 today<\/a>.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>two days before christmas she called to tell me her firm made her a \u201cbetter\u201d offer and she decided to stay there. it meant we had to enter busy season short a person. this seems to happen a lot. what do you suggest?<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<strong>response:<\/strong> you have a common problem. you also \u201cinvest\u201d too much in looking for an experienced person where your chance of getting someone suitable is not good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>first of all,<\/strong> you are hiring someone of questionable ability \u2013 you will only know what they can do after they are working for you a while.<\/p>\n<p><strong>second,<\/strong> you are hiring someone who was not happy where they were. what makes you think they will be happy with you?<\/p>\n<p>maybe they were unhappy because:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>they felt they were not progressing as well as they should or weren\u2019t given opportunities to grow and develop further.\n<ul>\n<li>if that is the case, why are you hiring them at either the level they were at or a higher level than they were? chances are they didn\u2019t learn everything they should have for that level \u2013 that\u2019s what they told you. aren\u2019t you listening?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>they weren\u2019t permitted to specialize or become an expert and take the cpe they needed to. see previous bullet point.<\/li>\n<li>they weren\u2019t adequately compensated. that is possible, but how long did it take them to realize that and leave? and if they waited a while, how much enthusiasm did they bring to their job? and if they started looking to leave right away, what makes you think their boss did not anticipate this and make the decision they did not want that person?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>third,<\/strong> you might be hiring an unhappy person.<\/p>\n<p>danger signals:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>they have not passed the cpa exam.<\/li>\n<li>they have an unexplained time gap in their resume.<\/li>\n<li>they got stuck in a place and remained there too long (you define \u201ctoo long\u201d).<\/li>\n<li>they did not supervise staff (maybe not able to, or not given opportunity \u2013 and if you will provide that opportunity, how much will they pay you for that?). don\u2019t give a raise from their present pay level, but promise to re-evaluate it in six months, and make sure you keep your promise.<\/li>\n<li>they are returning to public accounting. they left because they didn\u2019t like it. if they realized they made a mistake after a short period they might work out.<\/li>\n<li>if they want to return after nine years, then give me a break!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>a fourth reason<\/strong> is a legitimate one \u2013 it was their first job, and realized it wasn\u2019t for them, but stayed a year or two to learn as much as they could so they would be prepared for the next level. this could be a good person and they could be right on the mark because this frequently occurs in smaller firms. however, you will be hiring someone with two years of bad experience or training. why?<\/p>\n<p><strong>fifth, there is an exception,<\/strong> and that is that the firm they were working for had to lay off some staff. if that is the case, then you might be getting a real star, so pursue it. one way to \u201ctest\u201d that is to see their work history. did they have five jobs in 10 years, or one or two jobs?\u00a0 i would stay away from the person with five jobs.<\/p>\n<p>my solution is simple, but not so simple. hire people out of school and train them properly in your systems, procedures, techniques, style and methods. this way you won\u2019t have to settle on what\u2019s available.<\/p>\n<p>if you don\u2019t do this, think about <strong>your<\/strong> reality. on some basis, what you have been doing isn\u2019t working, so think about trying something new \u2013 something that the largest and most successful cpa firms have always done \u2013 hire people out of school! it is not so simple because most small firms don\u2019t want to hire people just out of school because they don\u2019t want to train them.<\/p>\n<p>they also don\u2019t want to spend the time training and in many cases they may not know how to train. this puts you in a bind \u2013 between a rock and a hard place. well, that\u2019s the problem, isn\u2019t it? and you decide to \u201csolve\u201d your problem the same way all the time \u2013 hiring \u201cexperienced\u201d people. why not try the other way \u2013 the way that works for <strong>all<\/strong> the successful firms in our profession?<\/p>\n<p>oh, back to the specifics of the question. if you hired out of school and trained them your way, you wouldn\u2019t have to put up with hiring people who \u201ccan\u2019t start\u201d yet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><strong>invest your mentoring time where it matters most.<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/?p=125978\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-125984\" src=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/250_mendlowitz_youngwomaninterview_adobestock_328936250.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"125\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<i>by ed mendlowitz<\/i><br \/>\n<a href=\"\/\/www.g005e.com\/shop\/101qa\/\"><i>202 questions and answers: managing an accounting 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