jackie meyer: earn more with fewer clients | the disruptors

create a win-win with “the roi method of value pricing.”

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in 2016, jackie meyer needed a change.

long hours, health issues, and missing out on her kids’ activities forced her to make a radical change. she leaned into tax advisory and tried a new value pricing methodology, which “tripled to quadrupled revenue for our clientele,” even after selling 60 percent of her clients. 

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“but the clients were equally happier to pay more, which is crazy.  

her pricing methodology revolves around a calculator she calls “the roi method of value pricing.the aicpa will be sharing her pricing method with members, which meyer calls “a huge win for the profession. 

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jack flaherty: don’t be a ‘yes’ person | the disruptors

the next generation is purpose-driven. firms that lean into this will retain scarce talent.  

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jack flaherty believes that one of the most important business skills is on the wane: the art of decision-making.

we’re all becoming ‘yes people. we don’t want to have an objective discussion, bringing out different ideas,” flaherty says. the unfortunate result is that “it’s causing us to make decisions that don’t allow us to achieve our goals.  

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to help individuals master this vital skill, flaherty wrote his book, the decision switch, and created a platform of the same name. as flaherty explains, the decision switch is to define your goals in clear and simple terms and build a clear path forward that allows you to consistently get those results.”  

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greg adams: from finance to storytelling | the disruptors

accountants need to write their own stories.

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greg adams believes that accountants’ work opportunities have long been underappreciated and misunderstood. when accountants at parties are asked what they do, adams explained that they always have to give the “but answer,” as in, “i’m an accountant, but i have a really cool job.” 

adams himself has spent time in australia and barbados and “had lots of adventures” during his time at kpmg.   

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his new book, green shade$, is an attempt to dispel the notion of accounting as limited to just tax or audit and to change the branding and image of accountants. a fan of jack reacher-type thrillers, adams wrote an accounting book that comes with a warning: “it has a little bit of violence in there and some sexual tension and but even has accounting equations.” the protagonist, dex mccord, jumps off a cliff while dodging bullets, but in his quest to solve the murder of an old accounting friend, he is “aided by at least 10 different types of accountants,” experts in transfer pricing to sec filings.   

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jody padar: make radical changes now if you want to be relevant in 2030 | the disruptors

your pricing isn’t aligned with the future, and neither is your business model. plus 18 more takeaways!

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jody padar, the radical cpa, has been pushing for big changes in accounting for years. her latest book, radical pricing, is a blueprint for firm owners who want to fully transform their businesses to serve clients better, make employees happier, and be more profitable. padar maintains that combining pricing with standardization and productization drives firm profitability.  

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this handbook isn’t just about “putting pricing on something,” padar says. “that’s putting lipstick on a pig.” many firms that have tried value pricing say it doesn’t work, but padar says that’s because their business model isn’t aligned with their pricing. “if you leave the old school model and you just put pricing on top of it, you’re going to struggle,” she says. radical pricing walks readers through a process of standardizing and productizing services, defining the ideal customer, developing pricing, and even explaining how to bring legacy customers on board.  

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rebecca driscoll: amplify reach by helping other firm owners | the disruptors

the future of accounting will be strategy, communication, analysis, and proactive support.

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rebecca driscoll went out on her own at a young age when a partner at the cpa firm where she was working encouraged her. “you’re not cut out for this path that we have in a traditional accounting firm,” driscoll recalls him telling her.  “you’re different, so you should go be different.”

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she already had a book of business as a staff accountant, but on the traditional path at that firm, it would be another decade before she could be considered for partnership.

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rory henry: create the return on relationships | the disruptors

be a client-centric human in a world of ai and technology.

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rory henry asked himself, “why don’t financial advisors and cpas work together?” it boggled his mind because both work with the client’s finances but are not always in sync. “we’re advising them on their businesses, and then the wealth advisor takes over and manages the finances,” henry says. “but really, one decision affects another.”

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the ultra-wealthy have long used the family office model to bring a staff of cpas, attorneys, and advisors to provide governance, legacy planning, and intergenerational wealth planning. at arrowroot family office, henry is leveraging technology to bring the benefits of the family office model to everyone. “so it’s really integrating these solutions, using technology, using relationships, to really provide for the many needs of the business and the personal finances of your clients.”

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mike maksymiw: be the leader you wish you had | the disruptors

if no one’s complaining that your fees are too high, your fees are too low. 

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mike maksymiw, the leader of aprio firm alliance, hates charge hours as a primary performance metric. he even left a firm where he was a partner because of a dispute over charge hours. although he exceeded his revenue goals by a healthy margin, he was penalized because he got the work done in fewer hours.

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“the main thing i was supposed to do, i was doing,” he tells liz farr in this episode of the disruptors. and if he hadn’t been meeting his revenue goals, that deficit in hours would have been something to remedy.  “so i don’t want people to think there’s no place for these metrics. we need to put them in the right order that makes sense for running a business.”

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terrell turner: build a solid business showing up as yourself | the disruptors

your clients may need a great deal of empathy and not just tactical advice. plus 13 key takeaways.

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terrell turner started his “journey of doing things differently” on april 1, 2020, during the pandemic. while “2020 was the reset button for everyone,” that reset offered turner a tremendous opportunity to create a new kind of firm. “we don’t have any history in doing this,” turner recalls thinking. “so how would we do this in this new environment that we’re in?”

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his path to founding a firm was unusual – from public accounting to industry and back to public accounting. he credits his time in industry with providing a “really solid foundation” in connecting processes with the impact on the financial statements. “i think being able to connect those dots is something i would have never been able to do had i not worked in industry for some time,” turner says.

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the community of accountants is a superpower

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leave your silos and explore an incredible breadth of options.

by liz farr

accounting, by its nature, is a solitary activity. but we don’t have to solve our firm’s problems alone. we don’t have to suffer alone.

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all we need to do is reach out to others, listen, ask for guidance, and know we will be heard and supported.

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kelly mann: be the bull in the china shop | the disruptors

stop following saly. think about what you are trying to accomplish. plus 17 key takeaways.

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kelly mann wants firms to stop relying on saly – same as last year – for everything: “everything is same as last year, the way we give bonuses to people, the way we split partner compensation, the way we monitor hours, the way we prepare a work paper, the way we plan an audit,” she says.

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when she started in audit, mann was told to “try not to be such a bull in a china shop.”  she saw many opportunities for improvement by departing from saly, but leadership told her, “don’t have crazy ideas, don’t mix everything up, because change is hard and change disrupts.”

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alicia katz pollock: create a human-centric business | the disruptors

give your team the resources they need to do the work that makes them happy. plus eight key takeaways.

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“alicia katz pollock proves that you don’t need to begin with an accounting degree or formal bookkeeping training to be a hugely helpful resource for the quickbooks community.”

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pollock started teaching computers and microsoft products and used quickbooks in her business. then, people started asking her to teach them quickbooks. she ran her quickbooks set-up and methodology past a few bookkeepers, who told her, “alicia, you have a knack for this.” so she dove in to learn as much as she could and is today one of the go-to experts for quickbooks.

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nancy mcclelland: be the one your clients ask first | the disruptors

rely on your professional network for answers you don’t know. plus 13 key takeaways.

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nancy mcclelland never intended to start a firm, but after leaving a toxic work environment, she took on a few part-time gigs. because she’d never worked at a cpa firm, she built it “the way it made sense” without bumping up against the traditions of “this is how it should be done.”

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the name of her firm – the dancing accountant – reflects her passion for dancing and membership in several dance troupes, including one where she wears miniskirts and go-go boots. sharing that passion with her clients means putting herself “out there” and having faith that her clients respect her work as an accountant. “and you hope that they don’t laugh too hard at your dancing or that they’re not disappointed to find out that you’re just doing silly, fun stuff.”

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alan whitman: stop accepting the status quo | the disruptors

the firms that shift from billable hours to value outcomes will win. plus 10 key takeaways.

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alan whitman wants to break the mold of public accounting. he wants to end the billable hour and the siloed practices that characterize how many firms have operated for decades. as whitman says, “we’re here to serve clients, we’re here to deliver great value. but do we really need to do it the way we’ve been doing it since before my father was in the workforce?”

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while “most firms believe that billable hours are the holy grail,” whitman points out that “the client isn’t necessarily buying billable hours.” instead, clients buy the outcomes and “the intellectual capital you’re delivering to them.” he believes that “the firm that can shift from production, from billable hours to outcomes, is going to win.”

as ceo of baker tilly, he pushed through changes that tripled the firm’s size and increased collaboration. like law, medicine, and architecture, accounting is a technician-based profession, and “most of your identity is based on what you do,” which can lead to siloes within a practice. but whitman argues that to deliver the appropriate solutions, “your responsibility is to not only deliver what you can deliver, it’s also to deliver what other people in the organization can deliver,” so the client is “getting what they need to prosper.”

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