and when hourly billing and fixed fees make more sense.
by ed mendlowitz
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equitable is not the same as equivalent.
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i use the word “equitable” because i have charged three completely different fees for the same result. “equitable” refers to the value delivered and charged to the client. but it’s not “equivalent.” and the difference can determine your pricing strategies.
with many accountants now working in uncharted waters helping clients get through the covid-19 crisis, the pricing question is especially important.
one time a compensation plan project was requested by a client for his soon-to-be-hired ceo. i spent considerable time developing and refining the package and billed the client $12,000 based on the time incurred at my rate. immediately after completing that project, a second client asked me to do almost the exact same project. i adapted what i did and charged $6,000 based on the time. and just after that, a third client requested the same consultation and the time came to $1,500, which i billed. all three received the same lengthy and thoughtful memorandum.
question: did i charge the right fee to each client? the third client got something for $1,500 for which someone else paid $12,000.
this occurred many years ago, before the “science” of value- or fixed-fee pricing was developed. soon afterward i had some time to reflect and discuss this with my partners.
we figured there were three alternative pricing methods we could have used:
method 1: what we did.
method 2: provide a fixed fee before we started based upon a discussion with the client of the value to them and the efforts we would expend, plus the value added by our experience.
method 3: provide a bill when we were finished based on what we thought we could get.
one of the constraints we had at that time was our fee arrangement with those three clients. each one was billed based on our time charges. that being so, method 1 was the only way to do it, irrespective of the value-added or what the price would be had we started from scratch for each client (which was impossible once we completed the first assignment). the billing model and rates somewhat took into account our experience and expertise.
a rationale of this method is that while the third client got a bargain, there would be enough work over the years with each client where this would all balance out. it seemed right to assume that on some other project they would be the first to request it, with the other clients realizing the benefit.
if you group each client’s fees over an extended period, say three or five years, this would work out just fine. the reality is that everything we do beyond the basic services draws on our experience, which was garnered from clients paying the full-time charges at some point.
method 2 creates a conundrum in that it was not known how much time would be spent, where our research and work would take us, how the results would benefit the client and the perceived value to the client. as it turned out, our recommendations were much more far-reaching than could ever be anticipated, the work more extensive, and a model for a complete package was developed that could also be applied by the client to other executive-level hires.
in retrospect, i feel the time-based method was the only practical way to bill the first project, while a fixed fee determined in advance would be the better way for future application of this specialized knowledge. i could see arguments made that we “charged” the first client for our education. i don’t buy this because, even though we worked in uncharted areas, our experience was applied to the process, and our creativity was drawn upon, as was our knowledge of the client’s situation and the goals he was trying to achieve.
the first fee was the right fee, and because it was a new endeavor, no consideration, bonus or discount was applied to recognize the value (or, ugh, lack of value) to the client. both we and the client benefited and received offsetting value in this situation. that seemed fair to me.
i think method 3 is an invitation for dissension from the client. regardless of the fee, it is likely to be greater than the client thought it would be. the basis for the fee would seem subjective (which it would be), and i believe clients resent professionals justifying value after the fact on what the clients perceive as services consistent with an ongoing fee arrangement.
to close this discussion, i generally feel that in new ground, it is hard to define the project’s scope even when the end goal is clearly stated. the value is also undefined. in cases such as this, it is a vague concept. only when it is completed is the value appreciated or understood.
in uncharted areas, when you provide a time-based fee, and the client trusts your judgment and ability, it becomes a go. with a fixed fee, it becomes an unknown shot in the dark, leaving questions about the point at which the work would exceed the agreed-upon scope and price adjustments are in order.
3 responses to “value pricing in uncharted waters”
ed mendlowitz
jennifer, thanks for the comments.
you are totally right about what you say for some of the time and perhaps most engagements, but it doesn’t always work all of the time, which is a fallacy of what you are saying. no single billing method should be used every time in every occasion. you are suggesting that the method you use is the only one to ever use. i respectfully disagree.
for more info on my views, see my debate with myself posted some years ago at 卡塔尔世界杯常规比赛时间, here: //www.g005e.com/2018/05/30/great-debate-case-timesheets/ and here: //www.g005e.com/2018/05/30/great-debate-case-value-pricing/
feel free to email me at emendlowitz@withum.com
thanks frank for support.
jennifer todd
your pricing methodology in the example has nothing to do with the value provided to the client and everything to do with your inputs and effort expended.
your blog post does not give the reader enough information on how you may have been able to understand the value to the client by asking the client the right questions and agreeing to the value and most importantly your price before work was started.
if client a was agreeable to $12,000 but it might have been worth $50,000 then they got a bargain too and you left much more money on the table. not to mention the fact that clients hate getting charged by the hour and the “surprise” it can create when the price is not agreed upon in advance.
you did in essence charge client a a floor price for your learning curve and development of a template or methodology while clients b & c were charged for you to fill out a template.
none of these billing methods reflects the value to the client which is the whole premise of value-based billing, especially if clients a, b, and c all got similar products from you in the end and they were all in similarly size businesses (i.e they might have had similar budgets to spend on the product and service your provided).
this blog post just reaffirms why true value pricing or even flat fee of $12,000 would have been a superior billing model. perhaps $12,000 should be the starting price for a c-suite compensation plan and the value conversation should start there to determine the end price.
if clients b & c can’t afford $12k for the compensation plan, then you have a nice template you could sell them for $2,000 and still be profitable.
time for cpa’s to think outside the box.
frank stitely
please no ed! you have unleashed all of the forces of heck upon yourself. but i agree with you entirely.