what to do with the client from hell

cpas share their war stories and their winning strategies.

by rick telberg/at large

almost every accountant has a story of a client who is more than just a little difficult, which we reported a couple weeks ago in “have you fired a client lately?” as if to prove the point, the reader response has
been overwhelming.

in the article i reported on a 卡塔尔世界杯常规比赛时间 survey that showed 93 percent of public accountants have at least “a few” clients they would like to fire. furthermore, nine in 10 accountants have terminated a client and many have done so at least once in the last year.

but the tough part is actually finding the strength and the right technique to sever such dysfunctional relationships. some readers wanted more practical solutions. fortunately, other readers wrote in with some great ideas. if you have an idea, suggestion or just want to share a war story, please drop me a line here.

i heard from a solo practicing cpa in california, who asked to remain unnamed. he can’t say enough about how good it feels to get rid of that problem client. “do it – it’s not worth all the worry and abuse to your health.”

another accountant, who doesn’t want his name used, told me, “you will be less stressed, have more free time to devote to your other clients and your employees and colleagues will thank you for it.”

the california soloist recalls “a foul-mouthed individual who could do no wrong. he was constantly hiring and firing his personnel and then talked trash about them after they were gone. he spoke similarly of his customers. i terminated this client after he informed me that he was going to record fictitious transactions into his accounting records for the purpose of obtaining a bank loan. by the way, it was my largest client and the loss in revenue is killing me – but at least i have some peace and can sleep at night. i have others that i would like to terminate but thankfully they are not telling me of their plans to commit fraud.”

and then there’s frank monetti in toms river, n.j., who recommends: “review and grade clients at least annually, and fire clients that are not worth the hassle. it will save you time, money and aggravation in the
long run.”

his client from hell: “i inherited a client who bought a medical spa from a previous client. at the first meeting, i was ‘jokingly’ asked how to avoid reporting sales tax. the records were never complete, and they would not provide a copy of the llc operating agreement. during my final conversation with one owner, i decided to fire the client because i found (after some questioning) that another owner had been incarcerated.”

evelyn edwards, a cpa in buda, texas, suggests: “set your boundaries and stick to them.”

edwards’ client from hell: “he questioned what i did on his return. when he didn’t like the outcome, he insisted i do more work on it. i took numbers from a prior year and prepared the return. he was still upset, he changed the numbers again. that’s when i fired him.”

phil golding is retired in weathersfield, vt., but his best advice is “careful screening to begin with.” call the predecessor accountant and “get the full story first,” he says. every firm and every practitioner needs a careful screening process.

oh, and by the way, in classifying the various breeds of problem client, golding adds one to the list – “the liar.”

i covered four kinds of problematic client:

the bargainer: wants to negotiate price on everything. and then they question every detail on the invoice.

the needy: constantly makes new demands, and then drowns you in e-mail, phone calls and office visits. and it doesn’t stop on evenings or weekends.

the whiner: this client is a chronic complainer and may even get aggressive or abusive.

the unreliable: this client is always late to meetings, cancels meetings at the last minute or even fails to show up.

but golding’s “liar” is the kind you “can’t depend on for any information being accurate. he has not even paid the former accountant his final fees or, in other words, stiffed them.”

there’s a mid-level staffer at a small public accounting firm who didn’t want me to use his (or her) name.

but besides, “the liar,” this reader says i neglected to mention three more breeds of problem client. “you forgot a few,” this reader says, itemizing:

the aloof: slow responding to requests for information. needs constant nagging. often doesn’t return phone calls.

the bad risk: you just have a feeling that something is going to blow up. an irs audit. a fraud. a lawsuit.

the abusive: speaks for itself.

for sure, problem clients seem to come in all breeds.

gina d’orazio in littleton, n.h., remembers her client from hell vividly. “they were a married couple who were managing innkeepers at a local inn. they micromanaged me when i was at the inn. they would tell me they could do my bookkeeping job better than me and then make countless errors that i would need to fix. they would want me to teach them basic bookkeeping and then tell me in the same breath, ‘tell me how to do this but don’t tell me any accounting concepts.’ they would lose quarterly tax-return documents that would turn up 30-plus days after the filing date.”

“regardless of how much we can use the revenue from any and all clients it sometimes is not worth the headache,” says d’orazio.

“if you know you have done your best,” d’orazio said, “and the client really is from hell then the best advice i can give is to provide 30-days notice for them to find alternative assistance and get the timeframe of completion of work in writing. have everything in writing so there is no future ‘he-said/she-said’.”

one anonymous sole practitioner may have the best advice of all: “the best way to avoid firing a client is to never hire them. you avoid these clients by removing all mutual mystification at the outset. explain to them in no uncertain terms what is expected. if they have a problem, don’t work with them.”

what’s your best tip on how to fire a client? e-mail your comments, ideas, rants, raves or useful suggestions to rick telberg here. we’ll read them all and share the best.

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9 responses to “what to do with the client from hell”

  1. mike woodstock, vt

    it really is quite simple. good clients refer good clients and bad clients refer bad clients. therefore, you are identified with the clients you have. how do you want to be identified??????

  2. phil seltzer

    electrocution has worked well so far.

  3. gregory

    i’m a little late to the party here, but this is a topic that really resonates with me. whenever a client grates on me by being excessively needy or being a general pain in the neck, i terminate. i find this is actually good service as a problem client is one that i really prefer not to deal with and that alone could cause more problems. they’re better off with someone else. clients wanting to engage in shady activity don’t get off first base with me. i simply don’t take them on to begin with or terminate immediately. i had to actually terminate a friend of mine because he wanted to include a bunch of bogus deductions in a return. he got insulted after i laid out my position, but i told him that i was insulted by his attempt to co-opt me into his fraud.

  4. lan cpa

    rick:

    i read your article and smiled ’cause there are a few people that i’d like to send packing!

    but, one in particular, can’t seem to find his way to pay an overdue billing ($3,000) and i’m not sure what i can or cannot do to stir the pot?
    we did extensive work with irs problems so can i threaten to revoke the poa (2848) and let the irs collection person to lose my phone number ?
    or contact the state and local tax authorities to remove myself from the work for “non-compliance” ?
    they are a pa corp that moved operations over to nj so i think a civil complaint in pa won’t do much for my collection hopes.

    it all seems to be a fine line and it’s very frustrating (blaming myself) that i didn’t get the fee upfront!

    any suggestions or direction would be very much appreciated!

  5. kirk glenn cpa

    i admit i have a few problem clients but i wouldn’t classify them as nightmare clients.

    i do have a three strikes and you are out rule. if a client questions or has problems with my bills i’ll let them go after three times. i take too much pride in my work and i find it is awfully hard to serve someone as a professional when they don’t feel my bills are reflective of the value delivered.

    fortunately i have had to use the rule very seldom. as one of your other readers mentioned a lot can be learned from the previous cpa and from the initial interview with the client.
    i always ask “ why did you leave your former cpa?”

  6. david kreycik

    i send a “severance of services” letter stating in polite terms that it isn’t working and list some of the more important reasons why it doesn’t work.

    i tell them to find another accountant, and if there is pending incomplete work i generally list those items needing immediate attention. i include with the letter the clients source documents i have in my possession, and a copy of any info they may need for their next accountant such as depreciation schedules. the purpose of this is to keep the client from having to come to my office for any reason.

    i have never been called by a severed client after sending the letter. i ask for delivery confirmation, but haven’t sent any certified (to date). i then document the file with my own notes on the circumstances, keeping it professional (never know what will be discoverable in a lawsuit).

    after a few years, it gets easier to sever clients.

    dave kreycik
    douglas wy

  7. lawrence

    i called the bad corporate client and asked him if ‘he had ever been fired’? he said ‘no’. i said ‘well, you’re fired as a client due to you being a royal pain in the ass. he was stunned! i hung up on him. he called back to apologize and offered to buy me a kosher hot dog!

    lawrence

  8. bill b

    raise the bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. bill mcg

    i have already circulated a list of clients to my staff for them to select candidates for “good-bye letters”. the last round i sent out simply referred to new tax laws etc making my time unavailable for them, and that they should seek other assistance. of course, there are the clients who still owe us fees. that is a dangerous area, particularly in nj. do you spend good time after bad? tough calls, but that is why you have to charge enough t o cover the aggravation.